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I've never seen or heard of this, I thought it was one or the other.
anyone one else know why?
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OldConkerwood wrote:
I've never seen or heard of this, I thought it was one or the other.
anyone one else know why?

I've seen a similar thing on a couple of Phal Noids, a new leaf and bud emerging at the same time halfway up a flower spike.
I've no idea what causes this, I've often thought maybe it's the mix of parentage in Noids?, one of the specie parents says it's time to produce vegatative growth and another specie parent in its make up says its time to flower now and this is the result of mixed messages, trying to do both at the same time ?

There is no scientific data behind my theory, I've just made it up. :shh:

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Ha great made up theory Steve, but genetics must play a big part.
I know that vegetative growth knows it's own age so a small cutting or keiki will be able to flower as it is the same age as its original plant - re (The great Bamboo death). I've racked the old brain since posting, the keikis formed after a neglectful dry period in summer then when it cooled the flowers formed that's my hypothesis. Hey ho got two more proper flowers stalks on it though 3 buds a piece
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The bud that grows in the axil of the leaf has the potential to become a flower or a shoot (i.e. a keiki). As we have all probably experienced, if conditions are right flowers form, but if you water or feed at the wrong time then shoots form instead. Your plant has most likely experienced unusual conditions that were just right for both shoot and flower to grow. Unusual but probably environmental rather than genetic in my opinion. Coelogyne cristata does something similar occasionally when the normal flowering shoot produces an odd leaf and tiny pseudobulb at the base


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Thanks for your explanations Barnie & WilE although like most explanations, they always raise far too many more questions for my brain to handle so I shall have to go for a quick lie down in a darkened room and just accept that it happens and enjoy the extra coupe of flowers when it does !.

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