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I used to have real problems (ie they died)with Masdevallias until I put them all on cork bark about 8 months ago and now they seem to be doing really well this one has 11 flowers on it


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Very well grown Marco, I like this one very much and think I've already mentioned its only my growing conditions which stop me from getting more.?

I couldn't resist a Decumana which hasn't flowered yet but I've just moved that from bark to rockwool because I want it to be my specimen massie 'pride & joy' as I don't think a large specimen will grow well on vertical mounted bark, which is why I'd like to know if your mount is only horizontal for the photo or like that permanently Marco ?

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A beautiful flowering Marco. Your change of growing method seems to have worked a treat.

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Very well grown Marco, I like this one very much and think I've already mentioned its only my growing conditions which stop me from getting more.?

I couldn't resist a Decumana which hasn't flowered yet but I've just moved that from bark to rockwool because I want it to be my specimen massie 'pride & joy' as I don't think a large specimen will grow well on vertical mounted bark, which is why I'd like to know if your mount is only horizontal for the photo or like that permanently Marco ?

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Steve I did try some vertically but I now have all the masdys sitting flat on the bench as they hold the moisture better this way which they seem to prefer. It is interesting how all my original preferences are going out the window and my conditions are dictating which orchids I should grow and in which way. I am now thinking maybe I could try a Dracula.

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Steve I did try some vertically but I now have all the masdys sitting flat on the bench as they hold the moisture better this way which they seem to prefer.

I think that's a good idea Marco, particularly if you are going to let them grow into a large clump, I think their habit will be much better.
They get a bit untidy when their leaves grow dense & upwards on a vertical mount, in effect they are trying to grow parallel to the mount and get very crowded.
I'll try to post a picture to show what happens.

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I am now thinking maybe I could try a Dracula.

Vampira ???

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Steve I did try some vertically but I now have all the masdys sitting flat on the bench as they hold the moisture better this way which they seem to prefer.

I think that's a good idea Marco, particularly if you are going to let them grow into a large clump, I think their habit will be much better.
They get a bit untidy when their leaves grow dense & upwards on a vertical mount, in effect they are trying to grow parallel to the mount and get very crowded.
I'll try to post a picture to show what happens.

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I am now thinking maybe I could try a Dracula.

Vampira ???

Steve

Think I will start with some of the cheaper monkey-faced ones and see how I get on but I do like Vampira

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stevek wrote:
I'll try to post a picture to show what happens.

Hi Marco,

Photo attached as mentioned.

A plant growing on the horizontal would normally spread horizontally with leaves growing vertically.

But as you can see from the lower growth in the photo, when a plant is already growing vertically the leaves have to "double-back" on themselves to get to their natural vertical growth habit.
It's okay with a young plant and few leaves but this is what happens as it matures and gets denser.
If I don't do something about this, it could become a fair old tangled mess in time ?
I can only imagine future leaves trying to emerge but being held down by the older growth above it?

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stevek wrote:
I'll try to post a picture to show what happens.

Hi Marco,

Photo attached as mentioned.

A plant growing on the horizontal would normally spread horizontally with leaves growing vertically.

But as you can see from the lower growth in the photo, when a plant is already growing vertically the leaves have to "double-back" on themselves to get to their natural vertical growth habit.
It's okay with a young plant and few leaves but this is what happens as it matures and gets denser.
If I don't do something about this, it could become a fair old tangled mess in time ?
I can only imagine future leaves trying to emerge but being held down by the older growth above it?

Steve

I see what you mean Steve. I had the same issue with them when i tried hanging them but also I think they were drying out too much and while I was getting new leaves coming along at the same time lots were dropping off and flowers were a rare occurence. So now they are a bit more shaded and certainly damper they seem to be loving it and I now have a shopping list for Masdys. It seems pointless fighting my conditions as the plants that don't enjoy them are definitely letting me know as are the ones that do. Interestingly when they were hanging they were being watered daily with rainwater/rainmix but now they only get watered every couple of days with tap water on a timer and then again with the rainwater at the weekends when I am around and they dont seem to be suffering from the poor water quality.

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I see what you mean Steve. I had the same issue with them when i tried hanging them but also I think they were drying out too much and while I was getting new leaves coming along at the same time lots were dropping off and flowers were a rare occurence. So now they are a bit more shaded and certainly damper they seem to be loving it and I now have a shopping list for Masdys. It seems pointless fighting my conditions as the plants that don't enjoy them are definitely letting me know as are the ones that do. Interestingly when they were hanging they were being watered daily with rainwater/rainmix but now they only get watered every couple of days with tap water on a timer and then again with the rainwater at the weekends when I am around and they dont seem to be suffering from the poor water quality.

It's the only thing you can do, if you have a variety of orchids all growing in the same conditions which you can't change, they will soon let you know which ones you can keep & grow as they will thrive and the others will struggle, maybe die so don't buy those again (a form of natural selection?)
Even then I have cool & warm plants growing and flowering together so I will always give something a try.

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