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After a post on facebook I saw the B.O.C had 'Societies, what is the Future? ' on their agenda for the last meeting on the 2nd July. They've not posted the minutes yet and I wondered what came out of that discussion and what thoughts people here had on the topic?

Do societies still have a place? Or is the ever changing online environment a sufficient replacement? I dont like facebook particularly, but see its value in holding people with interests together and providing a quickly updated place to ask questions and post pictures. Of course forums have existed longer and do much the same thing (although not as much, it seems these days).

Is anyone currently a member of a society that is suffering from lack of members, or indeed thriving - what are you doing or would like to do differently?


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I saw a similar post buy a nurseries I commented and never heard anything back, if societies want to survive they are going to have to change and imbrace change.

But a part of me thinks it won't change which is a shame.


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Probably staff and budget problems. Look at the American Orchid Society, it is said that they lost half of there members and then became financially unstable and sold their headquarters and green house and had to move in with a botanical garden. The American Orchid Society did not listen to its members and the monthly magazine became a showboat magazine.

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Our local society is very clique. I've been a member for over 10 years and rarely bother to go anymore. What i've observed is when you new people wander in, no-one talks to them, they wander out again and never come back.

Most of the time the old folks who run the show just sit around talking to each other, there are exceptions, but they're in the minority.

A society is meant to be a social thing, if it isn't then why would anyone go? Yes after ten years we know a few people to talk to, but my gosh what would potential new people think?

You get more involvement/information through facebook or forums. Societies that are run like some, are doomed to fade away.

(Except for the british pteridological society forum, where you virtually have to be security vetted before being allowed to post anything - another story entirely).


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Hi Silvershaded and I totally agree with what you have said You have been missed at the society and we are about to change a few things and make the society one for the members . By that I mean we are trying to involve the members more into our meetings. Our President is resigning so changes are on the way. Would be nice to see you there again and participating in the resurrection of the society.
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Speaking for my self, when I belong to a few orchid society's.
My major dislike was the show boaters, and the know it all's, killed it for me.

The best example that I can give you is, form the orchid board. One forum member asked how many species of vanilla plant are in the word. I replied at least 110 and with many more in dispute or discussion. The next day, checking my emails; I found that another person from the board sent me a private email. She was very harsh in her words, "That I did not know what I was talking about, and that there are only two kinds of vanilla plants in the world, and I should not speak about what I don't know about". So I took the time to reply and sent her the same list that I am using in my book about vanilla orchids. And the next day I got a reply from her "Oh I did not know, that there was so many" And I replied most EXPERTS only know enough to be dangerous or get in the way of real scientist. What I found the most disturbing was no apology from her.

I spent nineteen years I college, I admit I did learn quiet a bit, but out side college I found the real world of knowledge. Many people cannot understand why I choose to refer to myself as a student of orchidology. And the answer is very easy; I cannot say I have done it all seen it all, after forty-nine years, I still learning and discovering new things and information about orchids, and this has been my driving force. I have learned more about orchids from hobbyist and citizen scientists, than I have any place else, in my carrier as an orchidologist.

The personal interaction make a great society, talking to people and helping people, along with sharing experience and knowledge, on a human level, not me level, makes a functioning society.

I watched this forum for some time before I joined it, and I joined it because it felt like a great place to listen and talk with other orchid enthusiasts. A society that fells comfortable and meaning full will grow it's members.

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I suppose for me i stsrted growing orchids at the age of 14, I had been buying from orchid nurseries and talking to orchid nurseries for a few months earlier.

My first every orchid show was Hinckley orchid show, I was so eager and full of questions, I asked at serval societies. I was spoken to like a seven eight year old. One chap tole me how you make a hybrid was "you have a mommy plant and a daddy then you get seed". Well I walked off I was shocked. If in was being spoken to as a child, I was basically ignored and they spoken to my parents assuming in was just coming along for the rid. Or told to keep away from the stand don't touch the plants or table.

The only society that actually spoken to me like an adult was north of England, and it was John Gay will always remember the conversation, he actually made the say for me a as i was ready to give up. Also Dr. Henry Oakley and a few of the other gents from the OSOGB.

So now I keep well away from any societies at every show, I'm still at 29 either get ignored or spoken down to still. So I take the of pic and move on.

If it wasn't for the likes of Burnham, Ratcliffe, McBeans I would never have carried on with orchids, I would never have gotten to know the EYOF or get to know the RHS orchid committee, I would never have gone on to the RHS Wisley to work and do my scholarship.


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